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Miss Peaches - The Story (warning its long)

by misspeaches in

i was born into a family that didn't attend church.

my mother had been raised a catholic and was quite fanatical about it until puberty hit and she discovered boys.

dad's family were christian but non-practicing.

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Miss Peaches, G'day! Like ezekiel3 said, now you are truely 'awake'. I am glad you shared your story! I could relate to it as I read it. You really had a hard time finding solid ground! JWs think they are on solid ground, but their 'ground' moves around and keeps them moving with no chance to settle in a world that is doomed. Now when I look back, being a JW was like being on a ship with sometimes very murky rough water!

Welcome to the board and I am glad you spoke up! Looking forward to reading your posts, and dear, leave the drugs too! You don't need anything else to turn you into another follower. Try just being still and quiet for a while. Your mind will quiet down and your life become more stable without influence or stimulants. True love does not exist with drugs so how do you know 'he is the one' unless you experience him without being high of any kind? And if you want to get married and have children the drugs gotta go hun! (My husband's mom is from Australia) out of the box

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long years of brainwashing finally come to an end.....

by girl_interrupted in

hi everyone, i'm new here......basically, i found this website a couple of weeks ago when i was in dire need of some like-minded souls who had felt screwed up about the jw's.

from about the age of four/five, my parents and i were involved in the organisation, and all three of us are stil messed up because of it.....we are no longer involved in it, but it took quite a few years before my parents found the strength to leave.

to begin with, i was quite a zealous jw, was baptised at twelve and disfellowshipped at fourteen, because as i got older i began to grow ''weak in the truth'' as people so kindly described me!

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jmusic,

I'm going to delete this account right after this posting, so I won't be checking any replies or messages, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on the subject.

Is there someone that will check your computer to see what you have done? Is that why you must delete traces of that post? That does not seem like you are secure in your suroundings. I detect a bit of fear in you of being caught having your own ideas.

Obviously, no spirtually strong witness would be posting on this site.

I guess that you are neither in nor out at times. I think you are on the fence. How can that be a life? Too bad you 'won't be checking any replies or messages', because you need to talk things out more! We need to hear YOUR story!

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opps, wrong button lol here it is

by dedpoet in

last week was the 13th anniversary of my baptism into the borg, and i celebrated it by writing a letter of disassociation to the uk hq.

this has been acknowledged, and i am out of the wt!

the dubs who came round to confirm it commented on the date, so i told them it was quite deliberate, kind of rounds things off nicely, don't you think?

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dedpoet, I am so impressed! You did this with a clear head too! And no wishy washy, just straight to it! WOW!

Congratulations!

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long years of brainwashing finally come to an end.....

by girl_interrupted in

hi everyone, i'm new here......basically, i found this website a couple of weeks ago when i was in dire need of some like-minded souls who had felt screwed up about the jw's.

from about the age of four/five, my parents and i were involved in the organisation, and all three of us are stil messed up because of it.....we are no longer involved in it, but it took quite a few years before my parents found the strength to leave.

to begin with, i was quite a zealous jw, was baptised at twelve and disfellowshipped at fourteen, because as i got older i began to grow ''weak in the truth'' as people so kindly described me!

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WELCOME Girl!

I am new here too, and wanted to wish you a productive time on this board! Don't hold back, and just let it hang! Tell us what you are up to now? And your family?

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JW Shunning Does Accomplish A Lot Of Good...

by Honesty in

because it shows everyone in the community how cruel, unloving, hateful and distorted the cult can be at a moment's notice.

when a jw shuns an ex-member in public as the ex-member greets the jw with a smile and in a friendly manner the normal reaction of people who see this is repugnancy.

they see how hypocritical the jw's are because they go 'from house to house' proclaiming their love for other people and then display their real hearts when they encounter an ex-member.

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Honesty,

I agree with your post whole heartedly! Or when your neighbors see you are not well or recovering from an illness or injury and no JW comes to your home to help!

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Experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information in the cong.

by out of the box in

a post in this thread by dorayakii in this thread: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95493/1.ashx made me think about this thread.to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.

however, many people don't see that perspective, because they are not in a position of imtimacy with the leaders of the organisation.

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There were so many good coments that it is hard to acknowledge them all.

elsewhere, I agree, the subculture was indeed 'dirty' and more importantly imposing and dominant and I feel very 'worldly' in deed.

stillajwexelder, you feel elder kids are singled out, then your kids know humility and they don't impose on others. Give them permission to have a little backbone and you will save their lives!

greendawn, one must ask; Is Jehovah's spirit really with the org? If so where?

Sunspot, Annie, Yah, made me sick at the time too. And funny part, I am sure when we stopped going to the meetings and started to fade away after the series of events that followed, I am sure the discussion in the gossip ring was that 'Jah was weeding out'!

thom, I agree that the org cared only for it's own appearance after all it is the 'collective' that matters, though they do not tell you that and at the expense of the individual.

GoingGoingGone, Yes that 'lull' is actually lack of sleep, brain death due to constant brainwashing and a feeling of low self-esteem. Thanks for asking about us now, we are all doing great!

rebel8 I agree that boy needed help and a different mother!

nicolaou, Thanks, I am a survivor and now so are my grown children and their children. We became stronger with that which did not kill us.

Thank you for the opportunity to post here, and for all the great comments and support! I am constantly blown away by the participation I see here!

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Experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information in the cong.

by out of the box in

a post in this thread by dorayakii in this thread: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95493/1.ashx made me think about this thread.to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.

however, many people don't see that perspective, because they are not in a position of imtimacy with the leaders of the organisation.

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toladest, Yes, we all got counceling and the most effective therapy was freedom! And, he fullly understood that there were adults NOT doing their job of protecting the younger ones that made that possible. And he had the power to control HIS life and we could help him grow in strength. We became more and more free of the bondage of the cong. That in itself was so healing! We were not crushed, we continued on. There were more things wrong with that cong than I am sure I ever knew.

I certainly am grateful that you posted your expierience here. I have myself been a victim of sexual abuse within the org.

I am so sorry this happened to you! I cannot imagine what you have gone through! The fact that you wrote you were grateful I posted that experience here for you so that you could relate makes coming to this board worth it! I feel so good about posting here! I can see the anger still left inside you. Mine is gone, I only have sympathy now for a lost herd of sheep that were in that cong.

I wish the best for you and your continued success in achieving your goals for a more free soul!

dorayakaii,

in light of the cold, non-communicative relationship

Maybe that is where you learned 'distancing' for yourself. And because of the detachment to your father, you have learned to play the 'cold' part very well! I mean being amongst the sheep and inside being different. You are not cold, but you play cool. Interesting! What are you protecting? I wonder if it is possible to be a good JW and be REAL? I could not.

Questions from Readers in the 1972 Jan 1 Watchtower. Anal sex does not constitute adultry because the two individuals do not become "one-flesh" there is therefore no reason for divorce... Fantastic reasoning...

Again, dorayakaii, you have given me a lead into my next story! I will use that as a spring board into telling a story that was soon to take place after our 'sleep over ordeal'!

nicolou, Thank you, and now my two oldest are great parents! They spoil their kids, take them everywhere with them, and they do not leave their side! I have wonderful grandchildren that are alive, inquisitive and can talk to all of us about ANYTHING and we don't mind! They are safe because they are not growing up in the borg and we will make sure they don't!

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What do you all think?

by DazedAndConfused in

i would like to write a book on the experiences of people who have left jw's.

this is my plan.

i would like to be able to quote people's experiences (under their own names or online names).

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Thanks! and with a name like DazedandConfused I guess I figured I would ask you to clarify! Ha ha!

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Experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information in the cong.

by out of the box in

a post in this thread by dorayakii in this thread: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95493/1.ashx made me think about this thread.to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.

however, many people don't see that perspective, because they are not in a position of imtimacy with the leaders of the organisation.

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toladest,

I agree. This is why I discussed the outcome of it all with my son and daughter at the time. And why I posted it here. The cong. let us down because the problem of the type of people in the cong. was worse than this one problem as we found out a short time after. I have a few other stories that involved a bible study of mine with a former elder. I will tell that one soon. That was after this insident and we were well on our way out and so the shock of it was not as bad.

As I stated we did not hate the boy, and were lulled by all the brainwashing before it happened, but not for long. Put it this way, we WOKE UP to the fact that WE needed to look out for ourselves and not give up ourselves to the elders or the borg. It was clear that they couldn't handle the job. Mind you a few good Christian things happened to me and some nice things did happen, but they did not balance the stuff I had to put up with, after all there are 3 or 4 days a week you are around the people at meetings and out in service with the elders far removed up near the 'stage' and we are in the trenches! And at social events, the ranks or behavioral problems do not desolve!

todladest, Thanks for your concerns. My goal of joining this board was to tell these stories and they are the TRUTH as to what I DID actually experience and of course it is my side of things, my observations so you will only hear one side. But, if it helps anyone at all who is going through even a fraction of these types of events, and they end up staying out, or start to leave, then I feel I have 'witnessed' well. When I look back now on this board at the things I have let out for the first time in years I just shake my head. I put up with all that? I have not told 'worldly' people all this. I told some of my friends, and the Psychologist that helped me to straighten out my conscience. But, to see them in print for all of you to read is something I can't explain. Thank you for the opportunity to get up on a soapbox and express these events and feelings I have. They do not hurt anymore nor do they affect me like they used to. Kind of makes me want to go out in service to witness to the neighbors to 'NOT' let those fake Christians in their home, to go out and bare witness as I am doing here!

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What do you all think?

by DazedAndConfused in

i would like to write a book on the experiences of people who have left jw's.

this is my plan.

i would like to be able to quote people's experiences (under their own names or online names).

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The mediator of this group and the one who started this group did so without the intent of exploiting the posts here. That is a sensitive issue with me because I want to feel free to post my real feelings.

You will need to make up some sort of release form to email to anyone who's story you want to use. After all, a book is the last place you want to plagierise. You would need to have your words of their accounts and you do this with interviews not editing a post that 'they' wrote.

Another way is to have those who want to be in the book contribute their own stories (and they should get an edited copy of the part that they are contibuting for their approval before it is put into the book).

Check this site out about plagierising: http://ihsc.worc.ac.uk/clinical/learningresources/referencing/hownottoplagiarise.htm

I wish you well with your endeavor.

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